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GI Bill MailbagReporter Leo Shane answers readers’ questions about new veterans education benefits being considered by Congress. |
What questions are left?
Posted July 3rd, 2008 by leoshaneWe've covered a lot of questions this week, but I wanted to leave open a thread for anyone who thinks I'm missing some big ones. If you've got issues I haven't tackled yet, post it here and I'll track down the details.
Just to recap what we've had so far:
ELIGIBILITY
Are officers and ROTC folks eligible?
Can I get the new benefits if I never signed up?
Will the changes pay for college this fall?
How many credit hours do I need?
Does the loan repayment program disqualify me?
SCHOOLS
Can I use the new benefit for graduate classes?
Can I use the new benefit for online classes?
What about flight schools and trade schools?
RESERVISTS
Will I get partial benefits for a short tour?
Can reservists receive the living stipend?
Will reservists be able to transfer benefits?
TRANSFERING BENEFITS
Who will be able to transfer benefits?
When do those 6- and 10-year requirements start?
Can children get the living stipend?
What about college savings funds?
GENERAL
Does everyone love the new GI Bill?
How long do my old GI bill benefits last?
Do I need to do anything this fall?


Housing Allowance
In the interview with the VA, they say the new Bill will cover "tuition and fees directly to any college or university." Are housing fees considered to be part of these "fees?" On-campus housing for new Freshman, for example, can cost up to $10,000. Are these costs covered under the "tuition and fees" or the housing allowance? It doesn't seem to make sense to receive a monthly housing allowance to pay for something that gets paid by the semester/quarter. I'm sure, over the course of the year, the housing allowance would repay the cost, but students might need to cover the cost up front initially. Thanks
-Steve
RE: Housing allowance
Room and board isn't part of the "tuition and fees" at most universities. The new GI bill benefit will cover the tution costs fully (usually there's another few hundred in various fees too) at the start of the semester, and the housing benefit (an average another $1,000 a month on top of that) will get paid out monthly.
If you want to use it for on-campus housing, you can. If you want to use it for a private, off-campus apartment, you can. But there's no guarantee the housing allowance will cover all your living costs. The only promise is you won't have to pay any tuition.
Can I use my spouses new GI Bill Benefit if I have my own?
I separated from the Army in 3/08 after 4+ yrs of active duty service. I paid the $1200 for the GI Bill plus the $600 kicker. I'm attending law school in the fall of 2009, and the new GI Bill amount will not completely cover my tuition expenses. My husband is currently active duty Army with 20+ yrs of active duty service. Is it true that he can transfer his GI Bill benefit to me (under the new plan) and I can draw on his GI Bill benefit to help off set my out of cost expenses for tuition, books, etc.?
RE: Using two benefits
Good question -- I'm still trying to get a lot of answers about dual military couples, so stay tuned. I'll get back to you once I know what's going on.
UPDATE: That was easier than I thought, although I still don't have answer. Those transferability questions are still up-in-the-air, so until the DoD sets outlines for their use we won't know whether folks can use their own GI bill and their spouses' too. Keep an eye on announcements about transferability coming out of the DoD.
Prior Recipients
I havent seen (may have overlooked) any information about prior recipients of the GI Bill. I enlisted in 1985 and recieved GI Bill benefits under Chapter 30 and I used the benefits for college. I was commissioned in 95 through ROTC on a partial scholarship.
Am I eligible for the new GI Bill? Wouldnt mind pursuing a degree in a different career field post retirement (a few years down the road). Thanks.
RE: Prior recipients
Under the changes, you must have served at least 90 days active duty after Sept. 11 to receive new benefits, and you must not have already exhausted your old GI Bill benefits.
If you're still serving, you might be able to receive new benefits, but I doubt it. You'll have to check with the VA and DoD on your specifics.
If you're already out, then I don't see any way you'll qualify.
can i use both benefits?
im going to get out of the army and attend the fall semester of school this year (08). if i dip into my GI bill now, is that going to mean that i am disqualified from getting the better benefits when they go into effect?
RE: Both benefits
Nope -- the only way you'll lose out on all the "Chapter 33" benefits is if you completely use up your old GI Bill benefits.
This year, you'll see about a 20 percent bump in your old GI bill, but won't receive any of the housing or books stipend. Then, starting fall 2009, you'll get the new benefits: Full tuition at a four-year state school (for you it'll only be three years) plus those living and books stipends.
Also, you may see a refund next fall if your 2008 bills are higher than expected (I outlined that over here). But the bottom line is if you're financially set to go to college this fall, there's no reason to change those plans now.
new gi bill and old gi bill
married, trying to transfer my old gi bill to my wife to use to finish college, if i do this am i still able to use the new gi bill?
RE: transfer to wife
Only a few high-demand Army MOSes are eligible for the transfer right now. If you're one of those, and you give your wife the benefits, it'll work just as if you used them.
If she uses one year, you'll have only three years of the new benefits left. If she uses all four, you'll have no benefit.
The new policy allows four years of college total, however you want to divide it over multiple family members.
Enlistment Incentive and Buy-Up Programs
I received an enlistment incentive and was interested in the Buy-Up Program. How will these benefits be affected by the change to the GI Bill?
RE: Buy-Up Program
We covered the $1,200 enrollment program and plus-up over at this post -- basically, that money will come back to troops, but it hasn't been decided how yet.
What's the enlistment incentive you received?
Army College Enlistment
Army College Enlistment Program (Us Army Seasonal Bonus (High Priority Seat), I-IIIA, US Army College Fund (67,284). Also I have contacted the VA twice with questions regarding the New GI Bill, and they have told me both times that the Buy-Up is pretty much worthless.
RE: Army College Enlistment
Hang tight -- I'm trying to track down a better answer for you.
RE: Buy up and incentive
OK -- here's what I got from my contacts over at the VBA education service:
The $600 dollar buy-up is not payable for training pursued in an institution of higher learning under the Post-9/11 GI Bill (chapter 33.) However, if you are pursuing other training (such as OJT/Apprenticeship, or a certificate program), and you have eligibility under chapter 30, then you can receive benefits from your $600 buy-up.
The Army college fund will transfer over to the Post-9/11 GI Bill. Individuals eligible for the college fund will receive payment as an increase to their monthly housing allowance on a prorated basis.
So it sounds like the buy up won't help you unless you're looking at something other than a traditional college degree, but the enlistment incentive will be extra money in your pocket each month. That's good news.
Honorable medical discharge.
I will be leaving the Army at my 33 month mark line due to a condition that existed prior to service. How will this effect my Army College Enlistment Program (Us Army Seasonal Bonus (High Priority Seat), I-IIIA, US Army College Fund (67,284). Will i get 90 percent of it or 33 months?
RE: Medical discharge
I believe you'll get 90 percent, but there are some provisions for early discharges due to medical issues. Check with the VA to make sure you won't get more than just 90 percent.
Vocational Rehabilitation and Employment Program
After chapter 33 is implemented will it affect chapter 31? For example, VR&E covers everything but the housing stipend, will the new GI Bill change that?
Re: chapter 31
According to the VA, the two programs will still remain separate, so the chapter 31 benefits won't include the housing stipend. But depending on the circumstances, troops may be eligible for both programs.
The department hasn't developed any guidelines for which program will benefit affected troops more, so talk to your vocational rehab counselor to crunch the numbers and see what gets you the most money.