This week's Spouse Calls column (Click here to read) is from a woman whose husband is suffering from PTSD.
In these situations, it is important for the veteran to get treatment. It is also important for the spouse to have support and counseling.
If you are in this situation, please do not hesitate to reach out and look for the support you need:
- Military and Family Life Consultants: These consultations are free and anonymous, and no records are kept. Services can include group or individual, on or off-site. Contact your family support center or clinic to find out if it is available in your area. You don't have to give your name to get information. Click here for more information on MFLC. The bottom of that page has international contact information.
- Ask a chaplain or your pastor about counseling or other possibilities. You may be the person to start a support group, or there might be one already available.
- Counseling from a military or civilian provider through Tri-Care. Spouses as well as active duty members can receive treatment.
- Military One Source is another place to find in person counseling. This service is also free. Click here to go to their Web site. See the blue box on the right for links to information and international phone numbers.
- Blogs can also be helpful, but should not be your only source of support! There are many blogs out there for spouses of PTSD sufferers. Choose one that is helpful and uplifting. See the PTSD thread on the Spouse Calls Blog, where you'll find links to other sites, including The Aftermath of War.

Dear M. I am so sorry to
Dear M.
I am so sorry to hear what you are going through. My husband has PTSD we have been married 18 years and he just shut me out of his life, i am so thankful i am not going through what you are going through. Please get help for yourself it does get harder. My husband isn't violent just VERY cold towards me and wonderful to everyone else. i used to think he was punishing me for something I didn't do but he's isn't, he really can't help it. good luck to you and your husband, i hope things get better for you. I know I have finally come to the point where if i am going to be miserable it will be on my own terms not someone elses. I do pray A LOT for my husband and for myself and i know with the Lord all things are possible.
take care
Shannon Williams
Husband has PTSD
I to am having some difficulty with my husband. I am 8 months preg with our 3rd baby and just a couple of days ago he says he is tired of being married. He says he loves me with all his heart but he is putting up a wall between us. If I tell him I love him he says it back, and will hug me and kiss me but I can feel the wall. Its like he has to try to be distance from me. He says he is not happy but doesnt know what will make him happy. PLEASE HELP. It hurts so bad to be pushed away especially right now. Do I leave, do I stay, do I ignore him, or act like I want to and love him like I always have. I am not the one that is unhappy and it was a total shock that he said he felt trapped and didnt want to be married. Any ideas thanks for your time.
Finding help
Dear H.
I'm so sorry for your difficult situation. One very important thing you need is someone to talk to. Do you know a minister or a counselor to whom you can turn? You do have important decisions to make regarding the future and well-being of your family.
You are not alone in your circumstances. Many military spouses are sharing in the pain of PTSD. However, each situation is individual, and there is no one right answer to the question: "What should I do?" Talking through your difficulties can help you find the decision that is best for you. Practical considerations aside, it will help your emotional and spiritual health to have a sounding board for your own feelings and frustrations.
It is often difficult for spouses of veterans with PTSD to find counseling for themselves. The military is trying to remedy this, and you can get information about counseling from your medical treatment facility or family support center. In addition, confidential counseling is available from your chaplain. Also the family support centers of some bases have programs for family counseling that does not become part of your military medical record.
I am in the process of researching the resources available to military spouses for this type of counseling, and I will put whatever I find here and in the Spouse Calls column.
Another good thing to do is to get in touch with other spouses in similar situations. Blogs are a good place to do that, both here and other blogs related to PTSD. Please stay connected and keep posting your thoughts here.
Sincerely,
Terri
I know it's been 2 years
Hey Harsht,
I know know it's been 2 years since your post.
My husband has just started to really push me away.
He said the same things...feels trapped...he loves me but not that way anymore...which I know isn't true. When he hugs me he holds on longer than a friend would. He picks fights with me and everything is my fault.
My question is...did it get better?
PTSD
Normally I don't seek help, I try to find a solution for myself. I am married since over 4 years, I take it seriously to be married and I live my marriage with all my heart. I love my husband, but the last 6 month was a hard time for us. Especially for me, because I don't know anyone to talk to or anyone who would understand my husband condition. My husband has PTSD. He had always nightmares, flashback's, he hate loud noises, so he never went with me anywhere, but since last April his health-condition got worse. Everything what didn't go well immediately he take it as a insult and than he turns from one second to the other aggressive towards me. It seems it's all my fault. If something don't go his way he starts yelling, calling F-names, and I didn't know how to handle him. I try to calm him down, hold him, tell him I love him, but it's like wall between us and he didn't let me go through! He tells me that he hate his life and everything about it.
He says he loves me and he kiss me and say his standard how important I am, but then he turns around and give me such a dirty look and tells me how much he hates me and his life. That is a very ugly feeling! I don't know what's wrong, I would love to support him, but I am just a human being also, and I don't know if I can stand his hate attacks towards me for a long time.
Thanks for reading.
Husband has PTSD - Can I get financial help to get out?
My husband has been home for 6 years from Afghanistan (15 month tour). I understand that I cant fully understand what he is going through but he is scaring me. He has been in counseling for two years and it seems things are getting worse. He has hit me once and both my daughters once (not his kids) during this time.
Last week I started going to counseling myself because I cant handle it anymore. he tells me he doesnt love me one day and tells me he does the next. He tells me I am beneith him. Now he sleeps with a really big knife he got from over there. We no longer sleep together.
I have tried for 6 long years to stand by him but its tearing me and my kids apart. I think its time to leave, even if its temporary, until I know we are safe.
My problem is that I lost my job with an auto supplier two years ago and havent been able to find work since. I have no money and he says his money is his. Some days he wants me to leave and some days he doesnt, but this is really messing with me. I think I just want out but I have absolutely no money and no one to turn to.
I have looked and looked but cant find any financial help to get out. The army just doesnt seem to have a program, or do they?
My husband is no longer in the Army Reserves, as of last year, he got out after 23 years and lost his benefits and retirement. I cant say how he got out but he didnt even tell me he was going to do it, but did it on purpose.
What do I do. I hold him and the war responsible. Why isnt there any programs for the spouses to get out? And if there is, where are they? I don't have any family or friends to help me with this. he has pushed all of my friends out of my life and I cant rely on family. Please, someone help.
I am seriously about to beg to the public. I am so scared that I am going to end up a statistic.
If anyone has any suggestions they can email me at gemsnroses01@aol.com. All I do is hide in my bedroom day after day. I don't want to fight anymore, I just want to salvage what is left of me.
Does anyone understand this and can anyone help. I have tried Military One Source but they cant help and Va will only give loans that I don't qualify for because he is no longer in the army. What do I do. this is serious.
I supported the war effort by supporting him while he was there and all the after effects. My 18 year old daughter even spent 2 years in Iraq and was hit with an IED and suffered a head injury and spent a year at Walter Reed. I have supported this war; seriously, where is my support.
Leave a dangerous situation
Marciea,
From your description of your husband's violent behavior, history of abuse and current mental health, I agree that you need to get away from this situation now.
In fact, I urge it. The behavior you are describing is not just disturbed but criminal. Your husband certainly needs help from professionals, but the first step is for you to remove yourself from a dangerous situation.
Please contact social services or law enforcement in your community right now. They will most likely help you and your children to find a safe house for victims of domestic violence either in your town or nearby. (At a location kept secret from your husband.)
Your counselor may also be a good source of information about these local services.
I don't know yet if there are resources from the military, but I will see what I can find out. You are eligible for help from civilian agencies who protect families from such abuse, so please take advantage of those right away.
Please act now.
Sincerely,
Terri
Thanks for responding. I
Thanks for responding. I just went to my counselor again today and she basically said the same thing. I have stayed just because so many people say its wrong for me to leave a vet in need or that he might hurt himself if I leave but I realize now that I cant do anything to help him. She is also looking into programs for me and my son.
I wish I could go to an abuse shelter and I would if it were just me but my son is almost 16, how do I do that to him. I just need to find the money to get a place, and/or a job. Thinking about pawning my engagement ring, actually, I'm going to do it.
I just wish our government would realize that there are so many spouses like me that have no where to turn and realize that we are victims of this war as well and deserve some sort of financial help when presented with a situation like mine.
If you find out about any financial help out there for someone like me please let me know. I really appreciate having a site like this to go to for info.
Thank you for caring; and yes, as soon as I can I am getting out.
Military man responds
Marciea
This is sad to hear what your going through and as a man who was raised in a home that had abuse in it and living in so many different homes, still see no reason for a man to hit or abuse his spouse. I wrote an article about how my wife dumped me and how painfull it is. My wife was my only family I had and she was at my age of 44 the very first woman I opened all my heart to and truely loved. I promised myself I would never hit a woman nor treat her bad and I have lived that promise out. When my wife pushed my buttons I would sometimes break something or just walk away but never would my hands touch her in anger.
I agree that if your going through abuse you should get out for your sake and your sons and let your mind and heart clear so you can see the situatoin more clearly. basicly regroup then advance with a new plan on how to deal with this. Your in survival mode and reaction takes over thought. So just get away for now so you can think.
Just remember your not alone. I feel I am always because it seems no one wants to help make things better and I know I dont want to lose my wife, but how can you hang on to someone who does not want you or loves you back. Your not alone but you have to get up on your own and stand. Dont be like I was and wished my other half would come and help me out of this hole I feel im in. Climb out on your own and you will feel stronger about yourself with time.
Miguel from Graf
Thank you Miguel
I really appreciate the words of wisdom. Thankfully I have already begun the process of regrouping and searching for more options and making some plans. I believe my son is going to go live with his father so I've decided that I just need to fly. I think I am headed for Texas, lol. Have some old friends there and could use a new start. But not totally sure. I don't really want to send my son to his fathers but they have been apart since my son was 3 weeks old, other then summers and I think it would be good for him to be with his father right now. I know I am headed for a lot of ups and downs and I don't want my son to have to experience those things with me. His father is out of state so the new atmosphere may do him some good.
My counselor is becoming a dear friend and it really is helping. I just got lost in his world for way too long and I know, now it's my turn to take control. Easier said then done but compared to how my life has been going, it's worth the risk.
I'll check in from time to time to see how you are doing. I'm sorry things have gotten so rough for you. But like you said, "just climb out". I know I am a good person and I'm am sure you are as well, we don't deserve this sort of treatment. I hope things work out for you, I understand you have been with her for a very long time, but don't waste too much of your life; it's just way too short.
I am terrified of what lies ahead but whats the difference if I am already terrified other then "on one hand things never change and we stay stuck" or "take the risk and learn to smile again". I think I am going to choose the latter.
Now the key is, sticking to and following my own advice and finding the funds to do it.
Good luck to you, if you ever need to chat my email address is GemsNroses01@aol.com. I don't know about you but I need all the support I can get.
Marciea
Glad to hear this
Marciea
Good morning. Its Miguel, I just read your reply to me and it really makes me feel good inside knowing someone felt just a lil better from my attempt to help. I went to bed at 22:30 and for the second night I'm up at 0200 with bad thoughts of my wife and life again, so reading your reply put a lil sun on me so far, thanks. As a dad who missed 13 years of his son's life, it would be great for them both to be together. At one point a son needs the male role model and bonding as long as he is a good one. My kids were my reason for staying in Germany and I made them that promise to stay and I did.
I just read something last night. Fear is just not knowing but to face your fears head on will make you stronger. It’s a door that’s closed and were not sure if we want to enter the other side because we do not know what's there.
Having my son with me has made me stronger than I would without him and I know for sure because he is with me, he kept me from doing something really stupid to myself.
I understand your fear of what's ahead but in your situation it has to be better so look forward to it and not see it as fear. My situation is the fear my wife never comes back and she goes to another man. It happen before and I still loved her but I can't say how I will feel if it happens again. I try to blank it out but it wakes me up in the middle of the night and haunts me till it's time to get up.
I think you will be ok if you stick to your plan and what you're doing shows your becoming stronger to yourself already. Just don’t let this heart ache stop you from having hope and trust. It's just we have fallen down over and over but it's up to us to stand back up and keep trying, even though we know how bad it hurts to fall. It’s the same for our heart and instinct with say protect but don’t shut the doors to the future, it may be the one you're looking for. I'm trying get my heart to normal, now I see it incased in gray stone with just a pen size spot that has not harden. I'm afraid when that happens its done for me.
I wanted to send a I love you to Alex on AFN but she would have been mad. I baked a Valentines cake but didn’t give it to her since she was not home for three days after work. My wife knows I love her like she wants and the way a man should but I can't understand why it's like it is now. Why I can't be like her and walk away or why can't I hate her like she has told me she hates me.
I wish you all the best and you can email me anytime also. You are not alone even when it seems like it. We both know this to be true. Thanks to everyone for your words and support. Wish someone would pull my wife aside and just talk to her one on one but that prayer will never be.
Staying in touch for support
I'm glad you wrote me back. It's nice to feel I'm not alone even though
in a sense I am. I don't think I have really slept in 3 weeks or so. I am so exhausted but I can't turn the thoughts off in my head. Wondering how two people
who were so in love became so distant. Those 15 months he was gone put
years between us. When he and I met, I quit dreaming, because he was
there, my most important dream came true; and now, I'm left worse off
then I was before we met. And right now, I have nothing to dream
about, nothing to look forward to. I am going from a full house with
kids and grand kids and a husband to just me, myself and I. I have
never been alone and I'm not sure but I have a feeling its going to
drive me crazy rather than make me stronger. He is going on with his
life and we're not even apart yet I can't cant get past where I am going
to move to. Found him on a dating service, already marked as
"separated" and I can't even think of looking for someone new right now.
And then, last night, I was up and couldn't sleep and he woke up from
the living room and asked me what was wrong; all I said was that I
couldn't sleep and he took my hand, walked me into the bedroom, and laid
down with me. What is that, what does that mean? I don't know, I am so
confused. But.....I dunno..
I hope your day is going better then mine. I wish I could give you some
glimmer of hope but I can't. All I can say is that if you love her that
much I think you need to have a serious discussion with her because you
can't afford to just put you life on hold while she goes on with hers.
It doesn't do you any good, I know, I have been in this situation for
six years. That's not to say there isn't any hope for the two of you
but you need to know what her intentions really are. It took a long
time to get it out of my husband, he strung me along for so long, not
talking or sharing or communicating in any way. My life has been on
hold and now I have no clue how to move forward. I was a single mom for
13 years and was strong and independent, but extremely broke. I am so
afraid of going back to that life. When he and I got together we were
happy, and had fun, and because we had to incomes we had the life we
wanted and enjoyed. Now, I have nothing, no savings, no job, nothing.
I have been looking for work for two years but there just isn't any jobs
around here. This area was sustained by the auto industry and now; I
think there are about 2500 people for one job opening. I'm 41 years old
and can't compete with the young college graduate. I don't know...
I pray things get better with you. I know what you mean about wanting
to end things and have your children be your inspiration for not doing
it. I have felt that way for nearly 22 years. That's one of the
reasons why I started counseling a couple weeks ago. I am going to be
on my own and I wont have my kids with me anymore. One of my daughters
is already married and is in the military with her husband. My other daughter is getting married real soon and they are going to live in
Germany (army as well), and now I have to let my son go live with his
father in Virginia. My kids are going to be spread all over the world
and I'm just going to be living in some hole someone here in the U.S.
with no one to keep me grounded.
I just don't know how to handle all of this, it's just too much.
Please feel free to write anytime, I'm just a few clicks away.
Marciea
Marciea
Good morning my time and sleep good your time. Its good to hear from
you. It's hard to believe but you just wrote what is happening to me and
how I'm feeling in my life at this moment. My son and I went from a
family with a dog, in-laws house and dreams to just me and my son with
nothing. I still have a lot to be thankful for but it's not my dream I
had with my wife. I'm still in my hole and have and feel I have no
purpose in life at this moment. My wife is on MySpace and its locked out so you can't see her friends and she does not let anyone know she is married, heck she even says it was a mistake to have married me. That really hurts. Your right it's hard to believe the one who you love so dear can be the one who hurts you so bad. She tells me to get over it and move on like her and I know her intent is to find someone else, she has made that clear, but what she does not see is how much I have changed for her and how much I still love her, she refuse to even believe it. Im 44 and feel like Mr ugly and abused. Im just living day by day and have no idea where I'm going or where I'm heading.
The day after my wife told me she wanted me no more we made love and
it was great, your right how does that add up. Seems we both have to
wait and see and I still wait for my wife to hopefully see the grass is
not always greener on the other side. I learned it and know with her is
the best place and only place I want to be. Marciea it takes two and we both try to hold on to something that does not want us. You know the saying if you love something let it go, if it is yours it will come back? Well She let me go and I came back, but she
I feel in my heart wont because she never really loved me. Stay strong
Marciea, I know its easy to say but we are in the same boat so I can say
this because it applies to me too. I have no idea how to deal with this
and its killing me inside. Your kids will support you as much as they can and don't be too proud to let them. Your there mom and family take care of family. This is my belief. A woman is stronger spiritually and mentally than a man, A woman is the foundation of a man and if we (man) leave that foundation we will see how weak we really are. You were the foundation of your family and he is weaker now without his family around him, believe me, because I'm so weak now it's embarrassing. So believe in your power as a woman and build yourself up from the inside out and you will see the glow and dreams again and if you believe in God he will guide you even when you think like me no one is there, he is there.
Hey lets promise not to do anything like hurt ourselves or something
stupid ok. I promise myself and you and you do the same. And we check up
on each other for support.
Miguel
I have no problem posting this blog, I want and need for people out there to be aware of whats happening to all of us. I am very proud of the soldiers in my life and, although I cannot feel their pain, I feel for them. But it is time for us, anyone who has been put into this positon because of military service, to please stand up and talk about it. Nothing is going to change if we don't change it.
I promise you, myself, my God, and my children that I will not do anything to harm myself. I promise to get my strength back and to move forward.
Now, I suppose I will just have to keep talking and seeing my counselor.
I haven't really made a strong decision whether or not I am leaving. Part of me wants to stay and help him, stick by him until he wakes up; I know he will never be the man I married but....If there is even a chance that I can get some of him back....If there is a chance that we both can look at each other and smile again. I don't know. The other half of me has been doing this for six years, being pushed away and verbally (and once physically) attacked, living in the shadows of his life, and I just can't do it anymore. I have become the process of being more assertive, he doesn't like it much but he is doing some talking/yelling and that's better then nothing right now. I don't know, time will tell, I have no choice but to live one day at a time until I can make that final, absolute decision that this chapter of my life is over and I have to start anew.
Please, feel free to write me anytime. I promise to be here for you even if I can't say the right thing to cheer you up. So....smile. YOU ARE NOT ALONE!
Take care for now,
Marciea
Marciea
Thanks for the promise and I do the same :)
Please keep seeing your counselor. I really don’t think this is the militaries fault but just the situation. I have seen folks with regular jobs do the same thing. The fact is its happening and you have to make choices but you need to at this time do it from a safe distance, never let yourself get caught with no way out. You know the dangers but to support your husband shows your strength of a woman.
Its funny know I say this, because I see that my wife had and has her guards up against me for sometime and she didnt realize she was protecting herself from the wrong person. She like I, was protecting herself from the past and I was the scape goat.
I don’t have much to say today as support because my wife wants to talk and Im scared its just another version of how she don’t want to fix our 6 month physicaly being together marriage.
Will stay in touch Marciea but the weekend are the worse days for me and Im going on maybe a total of 4 hours of sleep since monday. The meds I got down range stopped working and my heart is ready to just stop. Take care and even though they dont love us we can show them we still do love them.
Permission
This looks like private correspondence, Miguel. Marciea makes mention of posting on the blog. Are you both agreeable to having this online? Just wanted to be sure.
Terri
I sure understand
I get the same thing. One day everything is great and the next he is texting some stranger he met on line. It's back and forth all of the time. I'm so torn, I just don't know what to do-
Now he has left and I am lost. I love him so much and cannot even imagine sitting in this big house without him, but he just doesn't seem to care. I feel broken inside-
Available Aid
Army Community Services can answer your questions about the availability of aid through military-related sources. There is aid available to service members' families and families of former service members through Army Emergency Relief.
Click here to find a family assistance location that is close to you.
If you feel more comfortable, you could start by speaking with a chaplain. I know you also have your own counselor, who has given you good information.
If you are not eligible for military programs, then please pursue this through civilian channels. There are avenues of help. See the site for the National Domestic Violence Hotline.
I can only provide you with information, but you have to act on it, Marciea. I hope you will.
Sincerely,
Terri
It's fine if Miguel posts my messages
If anything he and I talk about helps anyone out there then it is fine with me. Miguel is a good person and has asked me if it were ok.
As for an update, everything in the house is quiet right now, has been for a few days. I have been leaving hints around about abuse; verbal, financial, physical, or emotional. I even sent him a few podcasts about abuse. Since then he has been very quiet and polite and calm. He hasnt listened to the podcasts yet but says he willing to listen to them. I hope he is not just blowing smoke again.
Other then that, I have been arming myself with loads of information, which has given me several questions to ask my counselor. I guess this is part of the whole process.
One day at a time.
Thanks, Marciea
Thanks for responding, Marciea. I thought you and Miguel were in agreement, but I like to be sure!
I'm glad your husband seems willing to listen to information about abuse. Any chance he will go to counseling also so that he can apply that information directly to his own actions?
Terri
May be in counseling
My husband is already in counseling at the VA. I don't know when he goes or if he goes but he says he goes. I don't think it is helping.
Sadly I think it's just time for me to move on. I can't change him and I can't help him so I'm just going to have to find the strength to move on. I love him and I tried to hold on to our vows but I can't hold on to someone who wont open up to me, cannot stop hurting me, won't even speak a word to me now. Just nothing, like I'm not here. It is what it is.
Something will come through for me, I'll find a job and leave my home and rent an apartment somewhere and move on. I know I can do it, I just didn't think I was going to have to. I thought he loved me enough to try, to care.
I believe I'll just go it alone for a while; maybe a long while.
Glad to see you being strong
Terri and Marciea
glad to see he is at least agreed to go and maybe he really is. My life is still rolling down hill and it seems like the harder I try to pull out the deeper I go. My wife has looked me in the eyes and just killed my heart with no regret of doing it. All that I have done and the changes I have made for us and her seems to be for nothing. I know Im not a fool for loving her but Im a fool for holding on when she believes lies and defends friend again me when I have been nothing but truthfull to her. Seems she just does not want to believe me or see the truth.
It feels my heart is bleeding inside because it hurts so bad. Im ready to throw in the towel now but I can being so close to getting my son to school. Its like a juggle between what I feel i want to do and what is right to do. Marciea hang in there but you know its always easy to give good advice then to live by it.
I wish I could just go away, no one knows where I would go or knows me and just lay down and cry my pain out but even that would be a waist knowing I would return and like my wife said. get use to the fact that I will see her with someone else and she could never be with me again because of how it would look to other folks.
Not looking for help anymore because its just a rollercoaster ride for me. My fear is gone and I just hope.
Thanks for having me on your blog and this was my last posting.
Miguel
Last post?
Why is this your last post, Miguel? Stay connected, stay strong for your son. Your actions still affect the rest of his life. Don't give up. Hold on to your faith. Please see a chaplain as soon as you can.
Terri
LATER NOTE: Thanks for responding to this Miguel (via e-mail.) I'm glad to know you are well.
Thanks Again
I just wanted to inform you that Miguel and I are still corresponding, nearly everyday.
He and I have discovered a valuable support system for eachother being that we are going through the same thing but are in opposite positons. This site is a valuable resource and I appreciate everyones thoughts and opinions.
Thanks Again
Marciea
Advice: How can I make my husband see how much I love him?
My husband of 22 years just left me. Actually twice now in three days. I cannot explain the emptiness. I don't understand why he needs to leave.
He was a medic in Iraq, running an aid station and has PTSD that seems to get worse each year since his return.
He tells me first that he doesn't like me anymore, that I am too
depressed, don't do enough in the bedroom and that I need to fight for
him. Then he says that I am not supporting him in his efforts to go to school. This is all after I caught him in 'relationships' with two different women and confronted him about it. Similar to last years
issues when his Grandma died.-
We sat the kids down Sunday afternoon and he told the kids he was
leaving, couldn't live here anymore. He came back Sunday night to get
some clothes. He sat down and told me that he needed me to move with him and really back him with school- I said I would, no problem, that the realization the he was leaving made me realize that this house is not important and he is. ~That I loved him enough to do what ever he needed. So, he stayed. We had a fine day, I thought, on Monday, talking about where he wanted to go to school. He had to go out of town for a training class early this morning and left for a motel around 7pm. I called him the next morning to tell him that we were really warming to the idea of moving. He sounded odd- and told me he'd talk to me later. He then text messaged me that he had to leave. He said that I 'made' him change his mind Sunday like I have been doing for all of our 22 year marriage. ~That we have been giving this a chance for 22 years and now the best course of action is to separate. He said that he has needed a lot of things for a long time and hasn't gotten them. That his family should have ran to make him happy and instead told him we couldn't afford it. He said he wants to do things for himself now. He said he resents me because he had to go back to work after coming home from Iraq and hasn't been allowed to do things that make him happy.
Well, there it is. He doesn't want to go to couples counseling although
one of the things he said he wanted me to do if he stayed (Sunday night)
was to start counseling. I actually made contact with a therapist this
morning and had text messaged him about it. I wanted to make sure he new
that I meant what I said. He wrote back that he didn't want me to do
things for him but for myself and that he was worried I would resent him
for making me do things. I told him that wasn't the case at all, but
that he had provided me with the 'kick in the pants' that I needed to
start pulling myself back together. That I was glad to do what he
needed/ asked. Then he said that he shouldn't have had to do that- I
should have always known what he wanted.
I love him so much and want him home so bad. I just don't know what to do. He says we have to be happy alone and then maybe we can try to be happy together. I can't seem to make him understand that I cannot be happy without him. He is my other half.
A couple of months ago he found out that his unit is going back to Iraq.
He's been really troubled about it. I told him that I supported what
ever decision he made regarding that because I understood how hard it
might be if something happened to one of his guys and he wasn't there to
help them, although I REALLY didn't want him to go. It seems like it's
been since then that he has been having so much trouble-
Answer: You can't
This sounds overly simplistic, I know, but you probably already know that you can't make your husband realize -- or do -- anything. It's possible that he will not be able to accept your love until he accepts the fact that he (and his combat experience) is the root of his problem, not you. In his state, he finds it convenient to blame you for his actions. If he admits and believes that you love him and that you are working harder than he is to improve the situation, then he loses you as a convenient scapegoat.
The support of a veteran's family can make the difference in his or her recovery from PTSD, but I have heard time and time again from spouses that their love and support is rejected. It is a cruel twist of this disorder that the sufferer often rejects and even tries to destroy the very things that could help the healing process.
What you can do is care for yourself and your children, Beverlee. You need healing too. Support your husband from a distance, if necessary. Supporting his recovery does not mean supporting his current behavior. In fact, it may require just the opposite.
Sincerely,
Terri
My husband has PTSD too
The situation in your blog seems familiar to mine. My husband just got back from Iraq (3rd time there) 3 months ago. He was diagnosed with PTSD this time though. He is irrational, angry, violent, hateful and just plain abusive. He has also been physical with me twice. He is doing some of the things you described: telling me he loves me one day and that he wants a separation the next, etc...He also has power/control problems (his money is his, always right, etc) to where I feel completely unequal and inferior. My husband is in counseling too, and on depakote and klonipin. Sometimes he takes them ok, but a lot he either doesnt take them or takes too much. Also, he is not completely truthful and open with his counselors. Why did your husband wait four years before getting counseling? Have you done any family or marriage counseling? What about your kids? Have you talked to his counselor(s) at all? Do they specialize in PTSD? Just a few days ago, I had an MPO (military protection order) be placed. My husband and I are now forced to stay away from each other with no contact for 30 days. Also, I would talk to a lawyer about your husband and how/why he got out of the Army. There could be something a lawyer can do to get more support from the Army since your husband is suffering from a very serious sickness. Was he offered counseling upon return from his last deployment? I know that my husband is in the process of putting a case together against the Marine Corps for an NJP he got (among other things), and his defense is his PTSD, his untreated PTSD after 3 deployments. Do you want to save your marriage, or have you made up your mind that you definitely want out? You may want to consider some of this before you just up and leave. Maybe get a Civilian Restraining Order, or even see if there is any inpatient help your husband can get so his meds can be regulated, and he can get more specialized regualar help. What did Military One Source tell you? Please...contact me. You dont need to go through this alone. Im going through it too. I wish you and your family the best, and I hope to hear from you....
I can't tell you why he
I can't tell you why he waited 4 years to get counseling; denial I suppose, didn't want the army knowing he had a mental illness, pride. I don't know anymore. His counselors are from the VA so I would hope they specialize in PTSD, but I couldn't even tell you that. He refuses to let me go to counseling with him; funny huh, because he wants to go to my counselor with me; he says to insure I am telling them the right things. I do plan on letting him go but I want to get a few more sessions in first.
Now, here is the irony; My counselor has diagnosed me with PTSD, it's a wonder my husband and I can't get on the same page. To make a long story short, I was physically abused by my father and mentally abused by my mother, only to leave their clutches and get married way too young to to my first husband, just to have him abuse me physically, mentally, verbally, and sexually for six years. Well, that was nearly 20 years ago and I thought I had dealth with it all, but his situation with my husband has brought it all back.
I don't know whats going to happen to us, it's been a long road and I'm tired.
My thoughts are to just leave, go somewhere and start over, put all of this behind me and move on. If I had the money, I would be gone; thats all I can think of. For me, at this point, there is no light at the end of the tunnel. I just survive everyday, I don't live.
Either way, I'm stuck in this mess and trying to make the best of it. Atleast he and I arent fighting at this time; we're not talking but atleast we're not fighting. He claims he wants to work it out but I don't know what to believe. I have given in to his manipulations year after year; how do I know he is sincere this time. It's always, "I'm sorry, it wont happen again, I love you", and then things escalate again. I have a huge trust issue now; how do you get past that?
I asked my husband to leave two years ago, and he did, staying with my family because he had no family here. It lasted about three months, that's when he first started going to counseling. I wasn't ready for him to come home but my relative thought it would be a good idea for him to push his way back in here; so he came home, clothes and all when I was at work. He said that if I made him leave he was going back home; I didn't think sending him back home was the answer, his family tends to live the life of "woman has her place", and they are a few states away and I knew I wouldn't be able to help him long distance. I never realized how much until he got home and his family babied him, they talk behind my back on the phone. I have tried to explain the problems to them but they seem to act as if it is just my problem. This time, my husband refuses to leave, he says that this is his home and if I don't like the way he is then I should be the one to leave. That reality is becoming a huge possibility at this point. I just have to find the money first. I only work two days a week now because I lost my job in the auto industry and havent been able to find full time employment since; but I am still working on it and searching, even going to the capitol to take the civil service exam next week.
As for the arguing and nagging; I use to. After a while it just became useless. He just blocks me out so I was wasting my time. Now days, we don't talk much. I try to get into calm conversations with him but they always end up with him getting defensive and loud so I just back off and leave him alone and try again in a few days. I'm not putting him down when I am talking with him, I'm just offering suggestions to talk with with his counselor. But, honestly, it is hard not to argue. He gets on dating sites online and puts down that he is separated. This time he put down that he was looking for a woman 19-25 and he is 40 years old. It just makes me sick.
He has started smoking pot heavily and it is hurting the household financially. I am struggleing just to keep up with his debits in the check book. I've tried getting him to leave the card home and such but he just tricks me and reorders a new one. He has become a pathalogical lier and I am having a hard time trusting him about anything. He even gets my 20 yr. old daughter involved by trying to talk to her behind my back. Luckily she does tell him that she is staying out of it; but at the same time she tells me the the things he says and it's just breaking my heart. he will ask her things like: what did you mom do all day, go shopping? And I havent been shopping in 3 years, for real, since I lost my job. He tries to get her to tell him who I talked to on the phone, where did I go for the day, and what not but yet he gets off work and I have no clue where he is. When he does come home, he sits on the computer for a couple of hours and then hits the couch and he's done for the day, falls asleep and never spends time with me or the family. Never picks up after himself, absolutely never. He tore out my kitchen 6 years ago and started remodeling (with me) but then just quit 4 years ago and I still dont have a sink with a drain. Had to wash dishes in tubs for nearly the six years. Luckily, my girls got together and purchased me a dishwasher for mothers day and now I can atleast do dishes with a little more ease. But that's not the big issue.
When he was in the Army, he was an instructor, and every month would visit different units within the North East United States, teaching. Two years ago (another reason for kicking him out), I found out he was seeing another soldier, a student. Now, I know that's breaking protocol for the two of them but, dumb me didn't turn them in, didn't want to ruin his career; but he did that for himself instead. Anyhow, how do I know he wasn't doing that the entire time he was instructing. I don't because he is a liar and I cant trust him. Shortly after he returned home from deployment I told him the lying had to stop, but instead he says, "deny, deny, deny", that's what the army teaches. Never admit to anything, that's what he taught. And he lives by it. How in the world do I trust him.
When he returned home and our problems started; we were on the conversation of why he has changed so much and he told me "I didn't change, this is how I have always been, I only acted the way I did before we got married because that's how you get a woman". Now I feel I have been married under false pretenses. I don't know if that's the truth or if it's because the the PTSD and he is just in denial of how much this illness is really affecting him.
As for my son; I wish there were family around to help but...his grandparents live too far and are just too old and living on a fixed income. My sis has some major family issues of her own.. I've always been on my own, I have never really had family to rely on. I raised my kids alone for 13 years.
There is no way my husband would split the mortgage and what not. He said I had to get out because I cannot afford the house.
I don't know, its just been one hell of a roller coaster ride. The past two days he has been telling me that he loves me and wants me to stay. What the heck is that? It's on again off again and I just am really having some tough trust issues. Not only that, but he is always on the defensive, it only takes a split second for someone to say the wrong thing and he just flips and starts yelling rude and cruel remarks. Its not like anyone is purposly trying to set him off; actually, everyone walks around here on eggshells. On weekends, I send my son to his grand parents and ask my daughter to take the baby and go visit some friends for the weekend. Mainly because that is when he is home the most and he prefers it quiet, not only that, it has become tradition for him to take his weekly stress out on me, verbally, and I dont want my son and grand daughter around him.
As for marriage counseling; I've talked to him about going back but he wants nothing to do with it. He says the counselor favors woman; so I told him that we will find a different counselor but he says its a waste of time; or he agrees that we will go but then he doesnt.
As for following my husband; and I know you were kinda kidding; I'm not stooping that low, and besides, I dont have the gas money. he's been making sure I dont have enough to get around. I feel trapped. I need to find a job, but I need money to get a job, and he is mad because I dont work full time, so I try to find a job but dont have the gas because he wont allow me, but insists I get a job. It's a vicious cycle. He treats me like I dont want a better job but God knows I do. I have always worked; I put myself through college while being a single mother of 3 and working full time. I've worked in the factory for years even though it was tearing my body up, because of the money. I am not afraid of work and I'm tired of him blaming me. He sees the news, he knows what is going on with the economy, but still says its my fault.
And his counseling; I guess I let him manipulate me there as well because he told me that I couldn't call the VA and find out. He said it was totally confidential. I know he is going because they have him on meds. I believe seraquil and something new (for dreams). But, I know he isnt being honest with the counselors because he told the counselor on the phone that he was having a hard time sleeping but its a lie. He sleeps at least 8 hours, but usually 10 or even 12 and my family can attest to that. I suppose I do need to make some phone calls and see what I can do, thanks for the advice. Just me being dumb again, I just took his word for it.
But, you know, I've been dealing with this for going on 7 years. I'm just plain tired and hurt. Truthfully, I can't answer whether or not I love him still. That's a *****e. I know I should be able to answer it but I can't. I do love the man he use to be, but I don't know. There has been so much hurt, so much pain; I'm not sure we can come back from this. Or, I should say, I dont know if I can come back from this. He has hit a few times, cheated, porn on the internet, singles sites on the internet, cutting me off of money, lying, not to mention the verbal and emotional abuse. I just dont know how much I can take right now. That's why I started going to counseling a month ago, and they have me going every week. Now they want me to see the doctor to get something for depression and sleep. I don't want to live my life on meds so I can tolerate living with him. that doesn't even make sense in my book.
All I know right now is that I am leaving him alone, we don't sleep together, and I am working on getting a job so I will be able to move, I'm going to counseling and working on myself, dieting and trying to get healthier, working out and focusing on me and my son. he has an appt. for counseling as well, I had a talk with him last week and he said it wouldn't hurt. I don't know what my next step is, I'm a bit lost, hopefully I will work that out in counseling. But that's another thing, all they seem to try to do is convince me that I should divorce him. Atleast that's what it feels like.
Anyhow, I can go on and on and on but that's enough for now. You know yourself how complex this is; I don't like to sound like I am whining or anything. Sometimes I feel I am the cause of him getting worse and worse and that maybe I should leave, maybe he will be better off without me like he says. I dunno.
Anyhow, hope to chat with you soon;.
Marciea
Husband's PTSD & substance abuse
Hi everyone. I am reading everyone's stories and I am amazed at how many military wives are going through this. My story is a little different, but not any easier. My husband and I have only been married for 9 months. We have no children together, but I have an 8-year-old son from a previous relationship. I met my husband when he was on block leave after his second Iraq deployment. At the time, he had no outwardly visible problems. We were together for 7 months, although it was a long-distance relationship, and were married. Shortly after we were married, I began noticing changes in his behavior. He started being "out of it" very frequently, almost like he was high. Well, it turned out that he was getting high off of percocets every single day. Some of them were prescribed, but not the amount he was taking. He was also crushing and snorting them, not swallowing them. He was using our money to buy them on the street and he also took a bottle of vicodin that I was prescribed after a root canal and replaced them with some other pill. So when I went to take a vicodin for my pain, it wasn't vicodin, was an antihistimine. When the pills I was taking weren't helping the pain, I paid closer attention and looked them up online. That's how I found out. I ended up giving him an ultimatum. He had to go to detox and rehab, or I was leaving. So he went to detox and rehab. When he was discharged, they had him on xanax and flexiril, both of which he immediately began abusing. I went to his prescriptionist and told her what he was doing, so she weened him off the xanax and stopped the flexiril. So in the midst of his meds being changed every week, he started to become combative (not to me or my son), verbally abusive, and complacent. We started going to marital counseling and our counselor told him that he is in charge of his life and he needs to seek out help for his PTSD and that he is just probably self-medicating for that. So now, my husband has been in 3 different detox facilities and has had problems in all of them such as being verbally abusive to the staff, discharging himself AMA, and he even punched a security guard, which got him put on 72 hours of suicide/assault watch. My head is spinning and I'm sure yours is too after this information overload. My main problem now is that I have become afraid of my husband. He has never hit me or my son, but he has thrown his wedding ring and phone at me and accidently hit me with his cane (he has a sore knee and went and bought a cane to walk on; he is a hypochondriac). He also likes to play with his assault knives at home. He's never threatened me with them, but it scares me that he might have one of his episodes and that he will grab it out of anger. Am I overreacting? He hasn't been allowed to come home or be alone around me or my son in 2 1/2 weeks. I don't know what to do at this point. He is back to drug-seeking the percocets and is now also on valium, trazodone, halidol, klonopin,and I'm not sure what else. They are wanting to send him to a chemical dependency program for 6-8 weeks and then to a PTSD treatment facility for possibly 28 days. We are in Colorado away from any friends/family. Should my son and I move back to Georgia where we're from for the time being? My husband is being med-boarded out of the army and we'd be moving back there anyway. I am unsure of even wanting to be in this marriage anymore. I know I can't have children with him because he can't even take care of himself, much less an innocent little one. I apologize for being this length with my post. I am desperate. I know I have to do what I think is best for my son and I, but I am worried that if we leave that my husband will hurt himself and/or someone else. But if I stay, I am worried that he will end up hurting me or worse, my son.
I believe your last sentence
I believe your last sentence says it all. If you feel threatened you need to get out.
Dangerous combination
I agree with Marciea that you should listen to your own concerns about your husband hurting yourself or your son. Unpredictable combative behavior, drug abuse and a knife collection are a dangerous combination, even if he has never hit you.
It's natural that you want to support and not abandon your military husband. However, supporting your husband does not mean subjecting yourself or your children to danger. Supporting him could be insisting that he successfully complete treatment and demonstrate self-control and concern for his family before you can be together.
Terri
Hello everyone; I had an
Hello everyone; I had an eventful morning and thought I would share it.
I went to an appointment at the VA with my husband; his counselor was surprised to see me since my husband told her I wasn't interested in going with him (I've been asking him to let me go for two years).
Anyhow, quickly after we sat down, my husband went on a rant and got the whole office in a stir. People were standing outside the door just in case he went off. Anyhow, thats not the shocker to me, I'm use to it. The shocker was that he has never told his counselor or psyciatrist that he and I were having major issues due to his anger. He has been whining this whole time because I cant find a full time job, that I stopped bringing him luch to work sort of things. He told them nothing about how he wanted a divorce, or how he told me he doesnt love me anymore, or how he has been in four major hand to hand fights with other guys, or that I am in counseling, or about his drug use, or lack of interest in the family; well, I could go on and on. The point is, this whole time I thought that he was in there discussing how to re-connect with his family but instead he is in there putting me down and making me look like this horrible wife. "Well, maybe in his eyes I am these days because I don't give in to his demands anymore", But seriously, he never told his counselor what was really going on at home. For two years he has been fooling her; she was surprised as well since she didnt even know I was coming in and then to hear all the hell he has been putting us though, all while acting as everything is fine.
Anyhow, he started treating me like one of his private soldiers right in front of all of them. He was degrading and loud and showing his true colors. They finally have a clue as to who the real man is. I was so overwhelmed I had to walk out (thats how I notice the men standing at the door just in case). I know maybe I shouldn't have walked out but I started crying, and, according to my husband, I am not aloud to cry in front of him; so by instinct, I walked out apologizing for not being aloud to cry in front of him.
You have no clue how embarrassed I am now for letting him control me that far. I am overwhelmed with confusion right now, I have no clue what to do with myself.
I am learning, however, more and more, that I have to work on me. I have to find a job and some how the money to be able to move out of here. I have to regain my courage and self esteem. Knowing it and doing it are two different things but I am working on it and am continuing with my own personal counseling. I don't like leaving him, it's so hard, but I just don't trust him anymore, I'm afraid of him flipping out again, I'm afraid of living in this yo yo life forever. I wish everything didnt rely on money. But I'll get there.
I just want all of you in my position to know that you can feel better, but it will get worse before it gets better. It's hard but please, for the sake of you, your children, and your family you need to seek counseling for yourself. It is just so so so important.
I have a lot of work to do, I have a long road to travel, but I am/will slowly find my way. Trust me, If I can do you,, you can do it.
You're so right
Wow, I can't believe that he was able to fool this lady for so long! I am so glad that you ended up going that day. Now, more people know his true colors and perhaps the VA will help you, even if it's just to help you find a job. I will be thinking about you.
Meanwhile, my own husband is in his 3rd detox facility in the past 6 months. The first one, he stayed 9 days. The second one, he stayed 7 days. The one he's in now, he has been for 7 days so far and has to be there for 4 more weeks in order to complete the substance abuse program that the military has ordered him to complete. He has been very irate with the staff at each of the facilities, especially this one. He does what he's supposed to on paper, but not based on his behavior. He actually has threatened to hit one of the doctors. The charge nurse called me today and we had a "conference call" with my husband, her, and me. She even suspects that he has somehow snuck in drugs. He's being drug tested tomorrow. At the end of the conference call, she asked him if he was serious about getting sober and staying that way. He had no answer. I want him to do well and want to get better. I want him to be the guy I met and fell in love with, but he's not. He keeps writing me notes and telling me how much he wants to do better, but he does nothing about it. I know that going to this chemical dependency program means he is trying, but honestly, if he wasn't ordered to go, he wouldn't be there right now. He'd be using. At what point can I give up on him? I feel if I leave him now, it will only make things worse for him. I've considered waiting until he finishes the treatment and gets stable, but I don't know that he'll ever be stable.
Families and counseling
Both Rusty's and Marciea's comments illustrate the fact that families of veterans should not be left out of the equation in counseling situations. I have heard from some spouses who said they were welcome at counseling and from others who were told by counselors that their veteran's treatment was none of their business. All they were advised to do was "support" their suffering spouse.
As your experiences show, support does not mean going along with unreasonable behavior; And giving support should never outweigh ensuring the safety of the rest of the family. Treatment of the veteran should include attention to his or her family. Individual counseling may help one person, but it may be at the cost of the marriage and the family unit, as several Spouse Calls bloggers can attest. In the long run, does this really benefit the individual if the family is lost?
My observations for what they are worth.
I would like to hear from more of you about your involvement in your veteran's counseling and therapy and how it may or may not affect the outcome, in your experience.
Terri
Inclusion of spouses in therapy
I have never been told I wasn't welcome for a counseling session. I even stay in touch with the staff at the facility where my husband is now. I have been there once for a session with one of the therapists. It was basically to gather a history on my husband. The therapist wanted me there to ensure accuracy of the history which my husband gave her. I have another session this coming Tuesday with my husband and another therapist and a charge nurse. They are definitely keeping me involved, although I'm not sure that this will mean a better outcome for our marriage necessarily.
Before things started to get out of hand, my husband and I began to see a marriage counselor. At first, my husband complained to her that I didn't trust him and was always looking over his shoulder. While that was the case, he didn't mention why that was the case. After everything was in the open, our counselor had a clearer picture of what was going on and began to see that my husband needed to have his PTSD addressed ASAP. So together with her and the psychiatric dept., a plan was devised to help my husband get to a point where he could begin to heal from his PTSD. However, my husband wants what he wants and he wants it now. He doesn't understand that this is a process and you can't solely depend on medication to get through every day of the rest of your life. He doesn't want to use other coping skills. He says he has tried them and they don't work. End of story. So I'm not sure how this will turn out. I hope he doesn't become a statistic, bc every professional we have seen thinks that he is volatile and could potentially harm himself. I feel that he is a ticking time bomb.
So I agree that it is a must for spouses to be involved in the soldier/vet's counseling, but that it is also very important to participate in therapy for herself/himself as well. We cannot be left to feel like our entire world revolves around our soldier. We are human beings too and should not be left in the shadows to cope with this in silence. Sometimes we are minimized to the point that our soldier is in such dire straits that we must put our entire lives on hold, including our emotions, feelings, goals, and dreams. Lives cannot be paused. Even though we have to use most of our energy being strong for our soldier and our children, we have to go on living. What kind of damage does this do to us? I can tell you that my self esteem has plummeted. That's partly my fault, but what can I do about it?
Care for yourself
I agree that it is important for you to have individual counseling too, whether or not you are included in your husband's therapy. You are dealing with trauma in your own life as well.
Husband is doing a 360
So tell me this: My husband knows that I am planning/thinking of leaving and now has done a 360 on me. Is this just one of his yo yo moments? He knows I am in counseling, he knows I know he hasn't been honest with his counselors; and he is just acting/being all kind and sweet and listening and understanding. What is up with this? Is it a smoke screen till things calm down? God help me, I don't know anymore.
We have been back and forth; and up and down; year after year. Whenever things get tough and he thinks that I have the courage to leave he just reverts back to the sweet man he was when we met.
Am I being manipulated again or is he for real this time? I can't tell; and I don't have much, if any, trust in him; and I've been told that I am nieve; so how to do I tell if this is just another sweet talk session? Are there still signs I can look for even though he has his guard up and is standing on his acting stage?
A little input or advice would be appreciated.
Marciea
Husband's 360
Hi,Marciea. It sounds to me like you answered your own question. It's very difficult to doubt your husband when he's in this state of mind because he's being the person he was when you fell in love with him. It makes you want to have hope that he will stay that way. I'm no psychologist, but my husband does the same thing and when the threat of me leaving passes, he reverts back to his mean alter-ego. So I guess the real question is "What will you do if the current behavior doesn't last?" Are you prepared to pack your bags and leave? The problem with staying is that (if you're anything like me) you'll be teetering on the edge because you will continue to expect him to go off the deep end any day. However, if you can totally and completely forgive and forget and start over with him, then by all means, if you don't think he's a danger to you, give him another chance. You have invested time and emotions in your marriage and I know you don't want to throw in the towel just yet. If you did, you would. My therapist says that women (she's a woman too) make up every excuse in the world not to leave, but if they really wanted to leave, they would. I have to also offer the devil's advocate's opinion as well. If a man has ever abused you, he will most likely do it again at some point. But if you stay and your husband proves to you that he is truly a changed man and can treat you like you should be treated, then maybe he deserves another chance. I hope you find the answer that you are looking for. God bless.
Shocked
I found horribly violent pron on my soon to be husbands' computer- we both served in Iraq together, he is a very sweet man, never ever violent, never raised his voice to me or been anything but sweet- I was shocked and sickened by it....He swears that he just downloaded the stuff late one night and never watched it....
I am not sure I can understand this, I know we both have PTSD, I am working on myself, going to counseling, etc. He does not have time....
I dont know what to do, but I cant put what I found out of my mind.
Re: Shocked
I wouldn't read too much into the p@rno,but your husband needs to have his PTSD addressed. You are getting yourself taken care of and that's great! That should give him the incentive to get himself straightened out. PTSD, as I'm sure you know, can be a monster and can sneak up on you when you least expect it. My husband has been on 2 tours to Iraq, a total of 27 months and he never sought out help for his. He became addicted to drugs from self medicating and things escalated to the point where I became very afraid of him. He is now in a substance abuse rehab program and after that he will enter a 28 day rehab program focusing on PTSD. Are you guys still in the military? There are many resources thru ACS and VA to help you both. The violent p@rno his computer may or may not be his way of coping with PTSD. If it is, it could potentially be problematic. Talk to your husband and have him attend a counseling session with you. Many therapists will work with husband and wife together. He absolutely must make time to get help, or eventually this will catch up with him and he could possibly lose more than just time. I hope he will be receptive to the help he can get. Good luck and keep us informed. I'll be thinking about you.
Red flags
Good advice from these wives who have been there: Do not ignore the warning signs that all is not well with your sweet husband-to-be.
Even if he just downloaded it and "never looked at it," it's something that appears wildly different from his personality, and that is a warning sign.
If his true character is sweet and loving and if he truly wants the best for your relationship, he will MAKE time for counseling. If he will not make this a priority, perhaps you should reconsider your future with this man.
Terri
My husband started out the
My husband started out the same way. A few months after he returned home he started looking at porn on the internet. It was even being charged to our bank account. Not just once but several times; that was 6 years ago; I didn't see that it may have been a sign. Now our marriage is struggeling and possibly over and he can't seem to stop looking on single dating sites (and who knows what else), I don't look anymore, I know enough.
Just sit him down when he is in a calm mood and up for talking and don't attack him about it. Just calmy explain to him that you think you need counseling to deal with all the changes and ask him if he will go with you. Do what you can to get the counseling. I make no promises that it will bring you to back to eye to eye, but it helps you one way or the other.
***** luck.
boyfriend with ptsd
Ive been seeing him for a year. he was diagnosed with ptsd, i pushed him to go to the va for counseling, pushed him in to school. i new this was going to be a long road, but i loved him and wanted to stay by his side. he seem to push me away sand then pull me back in. one day he tells me he wants to spend his life with me and is scared to lose me the next he wants me out of his sight, then its back to loving me, and then he wants to break up with me. i dont understand it. i keep trying to make it work but i dont know what to do anymore. i met him right out of the army, so ive never known him any other way, but i still love him more then anything and its tearing me up in side. i dont know what to do or where to go to get help for us.
Pushing and pulling
Your boyfriend needs help, but no amount of pushing from you will change him. He may just grow dependent on you, pulling you down while not growing any healthier himself.
Is this truly how you want to spend your life -- and raise your children in the future? Do you want a life of pushing a man who pulls you one day and pushes you the next? You can't change him. Only he can make changes to improve his life and mental health.
Perhaps you should be the one to pull back and give him an incentive to change rather than pushing. If he truly loves you and wants a relationship with you, he must get the help he needs and start pushing himself toward a better life. Until then, you should be the one to pull away and let him stand on his own. If you need evidence that pushing someone is not effective, look at the last year of your life.
You may believe your pushing him is helping him, and in the very short term, it may seem so. For a healthy lifetime, however, he must discover his own inner strength, which he will not find as long as he can lean on you. That is not healthy for either of you and is not a strong foundation for any relationship.
Seeking professional counseling for yourself, separate from your boyfriend, would be an excellent way to get through the turmoil of this relationship and perhaps other issues in your life.
I hope and pray that you both find healing,
Terri
my husband needs help
being new to the whole preconception of PTSD i am not sure where to start or who to start with i have called the military one source and they can not help my husband until i can get him to admit there is a problem so far this has not happened. i met him after his one year tour in Iraq and did not know much about him other than he seemed to be the most dependable caring loving man that i had ever come accross. six mo into our relationship i was pregnant a year later we were married everything was great he seemed so perfect perfect husband perfect father.... than when our daughter was about 9 mo old i got pregnant again.... my hubby turned into something else in a matter of weeks yelling constantly screamin out in his sleep finding every excuse to not be with us... our second child is now 4 mo old and i can't deal anymore... there are classic signs of pstd he won't even talk to me yells at his babies whenever he is around which is not often. burys himself in his work its like we don't even exist. he denies the dream i hear
If he won't seek help
Dear Marie,
It is true that you can't help your husband until he admits he has a problem. You, however, can and should get counseling for yourself. You are eligible for this through your military treatment facility or TriCare. Please talk to your health care provider right away. Another option is to speak with your minister or chaplain.
Do this for yourself and for your children. If he is abusive to them or to you, you must do what you can to protect your children and yourself until he is willing or able to get help for himself.
Help
Dear Marie,
Get him to look at my myspace page www.myspace.com/ptsdinfo maby it will help him to decide to get help
Ed
Dear Ed,
I took a look at your myspace. It is a labor of love to your fellow veterans. I hope your story will encourage other veterans to get treatment and open their eyes to how their illness is hurting those they love, as well as themselves.
We most often hear the spouse's story here. Thank you for sharing the veteran's perspective.
Sincerely,
Terri
I REally Am Not ALONE?!
My husband has PTSD and I really was feeling alone out here in the civilian world.
Thinking that no one out there understands and know what I'm going through.
Then I found this blog and site "Thank you Jesus" I am not alone.
I have read through the blogs, every story connects with what I have been or going through right at this minute.
The empty feeling, rejection, most of all not understanding what my husband had all these years. I wish I had known about PTSD. It's affects a few years ago. I know now I would have stood beside my soldier and learned more about how to deal with the changes and what I could have done to help keep my family educated. My husband after about 11 deployments for the ARMY is getting treatments for PTSD & Brain Trauma Injury. At the VA Hospital in Martinez, Ca.
I had hated him and what he had become so much I up and left. I was lost into the world trying to find answers for myself. Wondering where I went wrong and what have I done to get such treatment from the one man who promised to Love me & protect me from all harm & pain.
I played right into the hands of this PTSD not knowing that my husband really was fighting to come back to me. But it's hard to recognize his path when his mind is unstable and out of control.
Thank you all for sharing your stories. I am a believer in God and my vows to my marriage. We all have our own situations some may be harder then others in many different ways.
One thing has brought me back to to were I am today. To make things work for the better cause I know
"God will never give me more then I can handle."
There is a reason why we are who we are and why we love the soldiers we are fighting for now.
My thoughts are, If We don't love, fight for them and stand beside them? Who else will?.
God bless and prayers..
PTSD wife
Hello friends,
I am married to a 23 year career Army/Air Force retired vet with PTSD.
In our 14 year marriage, the last 3 years has been like I'm married to a different man. He delights in conversations with pure strangers (people that he will never see again) but pulls away from any sense of depth in contact with me or his grown children. He no longer goes to bed the same time I do, nor does he seek me out physically. He seems to avoid any chance of intimate physical contact with me. He tells me his physical needs are not being met elsewhere so I don't think there is another person in the picture. I think he's just very alone.
I feel invisible a lot of the time I am with him. On occasion, he doesn't respond to questions I ask or says nothing - like he didn't hear me. He seeks out things to do that put him away from other people, like listening to his iPod (even when other people are around), going on walks by himself, spending long hours on the computer, not going to group gatherings, avoiding anything that might require a bit of effort.
He's often irritable and makes grouchy comments when people come into our home, for a meeting or social gathering. He flies off the handle at simple things. He also self medicates with alcohol and has been doing so for years. I've started going to Al Anon, but I feel like I also need help with PTSD, as a spouse. I'm in counseling, but I still feel like I've been hung out to dry. Is anyone else out there feeling like this?
Lena
Husband just moved out this weekend
On one hand it is good to read this blog because my husband has been acting EXACTLY like many of these people with PTSD. His case is unique -- he was in a horrific accident 20 years ago, and due to economic concerns / mid-life crisis / whatever, his PTSD really hit him 6 months or so ago.... He's numb, suicidal, not into physical contact, has retreated from all adult relationships, very agitated and angry most of the time....
Can anyone tell me of any success stories for families dealing with PTSD?!? I've been reading that PTSD is treatable, but how, how long, how do we get from here to there?
My husband has been going to counseling for 6 months, and just this week agreed to start some type of medication. But I'm not so convinced his counselor is pro-active enough -- seems pretty passive to me (or what I can surmise...I'm not allowed near him). My husband and I still love each other very much, and there has been no cheating involved that I am aware of... I reluctantly am excepting his moving out, in hopes that he can get his issues worked out and hopefully return, ready to be a husband again.
He's a wonderful father, but he's moving out because he afraid that the kids are starting to see his darker side sneaking in (he's been pretty successful at hiding his issues from them -- unfortunataly I'm the only one who he feels free to expresses all of his bi-polar-like emotions to.)
What now? He has refused to go to therapy together, feels that he has to get himself straight before he and I can go together. I'm about to find a therapist for myself (it's time...), but when do we start working toward this together as a family?!
He's moved out and I understand that there is a chance that we will never reunite. I waver (hourly) between compassion, anger, sadness, confusion and helplessness....
I would love to hear some positive stories!!!!
husband just moved out this weekend
I do think PTSD is treatable. The only problem is the PTSD person has to WANT to be treated. The PTSD person has to recognize PTSD is the problem, not you, and WANT help. And, the worst part is, the PTSD person has to be completely honest and willing to trust to get help.
It's pretty hard to be honest about all the uglies of PTSD, and it's gotta be pretty hard to trust the one person PTSD has been the ugliest to also. That would be YOU.
It's got to be a stretch to trust the one person PTSD has hurt the most because you are the one person he should trust the least because you are the one person who would want the most to hurt him back and screw him over. That's a big hurdle, and I don't know how you get past it. I just know it can be done. But it all depends on the PTSD person.
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Your statement was the one honest & straight that reached me--ty so much for sharing. i am new to this-so i hope i see u again.